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Vice Presidential candidates governor Tim Walz and senator JD Vance faced off last night in their first and only debate. Will Vance’s repackaging of Trump’s record on issues like abortion and January 6 land with independents and swing state voters? Where was the fiery Walz who won social media by calling Republicans “weird?” And will any of this really matter on election day? WIRED’s Tim Marchman and Makena Kelly join Leah to discuss. Leah Feiger is @ LeahFeiger .

Makena Kelly is @ kellymakena . Tim Marchman is @ timmarchman . Write to us at politicslab@WIRED.



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Leah Feiger: This is WIRED Politics Lab, a show about how tech is changing politics. I'm Leah Feiger, the Senior Politics Editor at WIRED. Vice Presidential candidates, Tim Walz and JD Vance, faced off last night in their first and only debate.

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