When the original lineup of the legendary R&B band Tony! Toni! Toné! reunited for a tour last year, co-founder and key creative force Raphael Saadiq had high hopes of recording what would have been the band’s first new album since 1996. But now that the tour is over, Saadiq says the new album has been canceled. “We just got overzealous a little bit,” Saadiq says in the new episode of our Rolling Stone Music Now podcast.

“The tour was amazing. We had a beautiful time ..

. We’re just at that point where we all don’t feel the same when it comes to working on an album. I’m probably the only one who really wanted to work on records.

” As for the prospect of another reunion in the future: “I don’t think so,” says Saadiq. “I think that was it.” Elsewhere in the episode, Saadiq discusses his work on Beyoncé ‘s Renaissance and Cowboy Carter , his collaborations with D’Angelo, and much more.

To hear the whole episode, go here for the podcast provider of your choice, listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify , or just press play above. Here are some highlights from the conversation. The Cowboy Carter single “Texas Hold ‘Em” actually dates back to the Renaissance sessions.

“When any artist is working on a record,” says Saadiq, “you’d have an idea about what you want to work on, but sometimes you don’t know what sort of album you’re going to go with.” Another Cowboy Carter standout, “Bodyguard,” started as a potential Saadiq solo track. �.