Richard Webber will watch the women he loves duke it out in Grey’s Anatomy season 21 as wife Catherine Fox butts heads with protege Meredith Grey. “Well, obviously, he’s invested emotionally in both of them,” actor James Pickens Jr. exclusively told Us Weekly of how Richard is handling the conflict while discussing Prostate Cancer Awareness Month and his partnership with Movember .

“He’s not gonna be a referee per se, but I think he’s there to navigate this little rocky patch they have. And I’m sure the audiences will be really intrigued by how this thing moves forward — but you know where my allegiance lies.” When the ABC medical drama left off last spring, Catherine ( Debbie Allen ) was livid after discovering that Meredith ( Ellen Pompeo ) was moving forward with her Alzheimer’s research behind her back and getting help from the doctors at Grey Sloan Memorial.

After Meredith defied orders and published an abstract online, Catherine started firing docs, including Amelia Shepherd ( Caterina Scorsone ), Teddy Altman ( Kim Raver ) and Owen Hunt ( Kevin McKidd ). In the trailer for the Grey’s Anatomy season 21 premiere — which airs on ABC Thursday, September 26, at 10 p.m.

ET — Catherine is seen threatening Miranda Bailey ( Chandra Wilson ), who slaps the philanthropist. Amid all the drama, Richard is once again considering retirement. “He’s still hanging in there.

He’s working out some anxiety and some demons he’s having around that, that we.