T he last time I talked to Clooney was during the pandemic; I have a memory of him, hair grown out and shaggy, speaking to me on Zoom from his living room, holding his son in his lap. The last time I talked to Pitt was in a tiny pool house in La Cañada at a home that belonged to neither of us. Looking at the view in front of us now, I keep trying to decide which of these three experiences was the most surreal.

But surreal is kind of the way it goes with these guys. The main reason is that it is a year on the road to direct, and now my kids are of a certain age. We’re not going to uproot our kids out of school and run around.

Before that, they could just come with us and we would all go. But that’s different now. So now I’m going to just probably focus on other things, like acting.

Well, now I’m doing one movie in a year and a half. [Laughter.] No, I’m still kind of on the same trajectory.

I feel the same. I’m really just trying to enjoy the people that I love around me and just living. [He gestures out at the vineyard.

] I don’t know how to not sound cheesy about it, but just the air is fresh and grass is green and I’ve just kind of become that guy a little bit. It’s also, there’s an interesting thing that happens—you’re 60 now, right? Yep. [Chuckles.

] It makes me laugh. When I turned 60, my wife and I had a nice dinner. We were talking and I said, “Look, I’m 60.

” Now I’m 63. And I said, “So here’s the thing, I can still play basketball wi.