Ariana Grande can take the heat. Appearing on the Hot Ones podcast, Grande conquered the show’s challenge of eating increasingly spicy wings, making it to the end of a task that has humbled many celebrities. She admitted she “begged” to come on the show, and she certainly proved her mettle.

She even seemed to top show host Sean Evans , who presumably has more experience in these matters, giving him a taste of black coffee after the final challenge as a way to quell his tearful discomfort. Grande used vegan wings for her sauce, and noted that the spiciest sauce triggered an out-of-body experience. But the hot sauces never brought her to an obvious uncomfortable point, and she remained poised throughout.

Grande also smoothly navigated the host’s questions. Asked about the impact of leaked music, Grande admitted, “I see both sides.” “It’s hard.

It’s really hard for me, because it’s really disheartening, and it’s disappointing, and it sucks. And I am constantly trying to get to the bottom of how people get stuff, whether it’s videos or pictures or audio, songs, and then also like, commented on, criticized, blah blah blah,” she said. “So it’s conflicting because that is very frustrating and feels very dehumanizing, and then the other side is like.

.. I’m so grateful to be an artist people care about, and my fans want more of me, so they’re going to these extremes to steal and break in.

It’s so lovely to be loved. But yeah, I sit somewhere in betw.